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Post by morjaz on Aug 28, 2005 21:10:16 GMT -5
just wondering if there is anyone there involved with original composition......
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Post by Professor on Aug 28, 2005 21:21:11 GMT -5
Yes. I'm here.
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Post by morjaz on Aug 29, 2005 21:11:55 GMT -5
......and I'm glad you're there.
Playing chord-melody,reharmonising,arranging.....at this stage I do these things on a daily basis,......and in it's own way is a creative process......and in the process one discovers new ideas.......any of which could lead to a song or tune.....
the forum is a good place for putting forward musical ideas....
I think this thread will be a slow burner......but composition is at the top of the whole pile-of endeavor...
not too many of us will have originals down.....but it's worth going for.....
I'm encouraging myself to go further......and anyone else who feels the creative urge...
maybe there is not a lot of advice that can be given except - Do It -
But if there is any advice that can be given......it can only be towards the good....
I heard of a book by Ron Eschete called Chord Melody Ideas......I think I'll get that as it sounds like it will stimulate the creative process......
Anyway,Prof,if you can throw anything in here it would be great (anyone else of course,also)......
Is there any chance of you posting a few bars of one of your compositions?
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Post by Professor on Aug 29, 2005 22:15:23 GMT -5
Is there any chance of you posting a few bars of one of your compositions? Umm...I don't have any idea how I would do that. Jeez, I can barely work my email. I enjoy working on pieces for large ensembles. Concert bands and orchestras. It's REALLY cool to hear 80 people play one of your works. It's also really hard to get the opportunity to have stuff read by large groups. I actually do alot more composing in my head than on paper. Once the sketches are done, (the inspirational part), the real work begins. All the details have to be thoroughly thought through, planned and organized; harmonies, choirs of instruments, importance of various sonorities, etc. Writing it down is the last part. Well, actually, entering it into the computer is the last part. It's so much easier to extract and print the parts that way. But I always produce a full-size score. Because that way, I can spread out several pages across the table. It really helps continuity. The computer screen is too small-scale when working with over a dozen parts, and useless for two dozen or more. |
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Post by slowpoke on Aug 30, 2005 11:33:26 GMT -5
composing yes.
jazz composing no.
i've written rock/pop/experimental songs before but haven't ventured into the jazz avenue quite yet. i'm sure i will one of these days though. i'm focusing on getting my chops in order right now though, i'm sure once i get a working group together original tunes will be inevitable.
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Post by morjaz on Aug 30, 2005 16:46:29 GMT -5
You're revealing depths of knowledge I never expected,Prof.Composing and arranging for a big band.-now that's pretty cool.......
In another post you mentioned that your big band was led by the tenor sax.......and I understand that the leader quite often does most of the arranging .....but with your capabilties I can imagine that you might do some of the band's arranging too...would that be the case?
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Post by Professor on Aug 30, 2005 19:00:06 GMT -5
The big band works I've done are for a concert band. I haven't done any jazz compositions yet, I'm still learning the lingo, as it were. So, I haven't done any jazz arranging yet, because I'm still working on the harmonic theory. Jazz goes by some different rules. For the swing dance band, the lead trombone did most of the arrangements, they are not very complex, and don't really need to be. That band also does alot of "jams" where they just improvise on stuff they already know or remember...which leaves me out alot, because I'm a generation younger than those guys.  |
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Post by morjaz on Aug 31, 2005 16:49:57 GMT -5
I (perhaps naively) thought that to compose a jazz piece for guitar you could get away with just coming up with a tune...beginning,middle and end,.....by just fiddling around with melodic lines and melody chords,writing it down so you don't forget...and then fine tuning it.....after that I guess you could arrange the same tune for a big band if you wanted.
What kind of extra harmonic theory would you need?
Come to think of it I'm a bit surprised that you still see that you have much theory to learn
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Post by Professor on Aug 31, 2005 19:11:26 GMT -5
Morjaz,
Yes, that's the way it should work, but I'm not really sure how the jazz chords work from the theory side, and how to choose which harmony...etc. so that it sounds like jazz and has the "right" changes. I'm still working on becoming fluent in the "harmonic language" of jazz. Did that answer your question?
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